This book has been recommended to me a few times.
Is it worth reading?
How could I get a copy without paying the massive amount stated on Amazon and Ebay?
this book has been recommended to me a few times.
is it worth reading?.
how could i get a copy without paying the massive amount stated on amazon and ebay?
This book has been recommended to me a few times.
Is it worth reading?
How could I get a copy without paying the massive amount stated on Amazon and Ebay?
i have just returned from visiting friends and family.
when i was disassociated my parents had contact with me a few months before my dad was diagnosed with cancer.
i was reinstated 20 months after his funeral and then they disfellowshipped me 5 months later as they are convinced i had not changed my life enough to be a jw again.
My Mum dislikes me anyway as she sees the "free and wild spirit" in me that was in her before she gave in fully to the JWs. She doesn't want to be reminded of it, so it is easy for her to have an excuse not to see me. Very sad. x
i have just returned from visiting friends and family.
when i was disassociated my parents had contact with me a few months before my dad was diagnosed with cancer.
i was reinstated 20 months after his funeral and then they disfellowshipped me 5 months later as they are convinced i had not changed my life enough to be a jw again.
I have just returned from visiting friends and family. When I was disassociated my parents had contact with me a few months before my Dad was diagnosed with cancer. I was reinstated 20 months after his funeral and then they disfellowshipped me 5 months later as they are convinced I had not changed my life enough to be a JW again.
As my mother had been seeing me before my reinstatement I went to visit her with my adult son. She opened the door and said she could not entertain us as my sister (who has been an inactive JW for years) would soon be visiting. My mother looked at me and said "You know the rules". I replied that is was cruel. She said it was not cruel. I refused to become the "little girl" again in front of her so I told her some home truths. I also mentioned that it says in the Watchtowers "You should honour your family commitments but keep contact to a minimum" I live over 300 miles away from her so I only visit once or twice a year. The fact that the JWs allow minimum contact and she doesn't even want to give me that says more about her than it does about the JWs and I told her so...this is HER choice not theirs!!!!
I was also very angry that my 24 year old son was with me and she refused to invite him in either as I offered to go elsewhere. Anyway after saying my piece she slammed the door on me and we left.
The next time I will see her now is probably in her box!!
i have never understood this.
was it because of legal reasons?
i cant think of any other reason why it wouldn't be allowed, but i know the elders ask you repeatedly that you are not taping.
So that there are no witnesses to hear how nasty and abusive they are to single women who have to sit in front of them. (I know this to be true) x
'in order to extend mercy, the committee must be convinced that the wrongdoer has a changed heart condition and that he has a zeal to right the wrong and is absolutely determined to avoid it in the future.'.
shepherd the flock page 91. i remember this is one of the first things that concerned me as an elder because it seemed to sound like a person is guilty until proven innocent rather than 'love believes all things', especially given the word 'convinced' appears in bold.. then in a training video one elder said something like 'unless we are convinced of repentance the shepherd the flock book says we must disfellowship'.
that was the begining of the end for me as i thought surely true christians would reason the other way round and show mercy wherever possible.. any thoughts?.
I was disfellowshipped a month ago because I live in the home of a retired "witch". She is no longer involved in this work and neither am I now, but they refused to believe that. I told them I cannot afford to move out and have no other options, but they believe that because I live there I must be engaging in all kinds of demonic practices. I knew there was no point in appealing as it would go against you anyway to say the elders are wrong. Ho hum! :-/ x
when you finally and officially exited the cult, whether it be by disfellowshipping, disassociating or fading - what was the first things you did that are considered "worldly"?.
for me, it was like crash landing on another planet that looked like earth but was completely different to the earth i knew.
i wanted to learn everything that i thought i already knew.. first things i did:.
a little background, both my parents are from very large families ( i have over 70 first cousins).
so i have always felt very fortunate to have something to do with my wordly family maybe twice a year to spend a few days with my grandparents on my fathers side, who are the two most wonderful people i have known ( grandad is a devout roman catholic) grandma i honestly don't think gives a shit lol.
as you could guess my sister and little brother blame association like this as good reasons why i never went with the organisation.
You were very fortunate to have parents who did not shun you, I wish I had that from my parents. :-) x
what a horror.
instead of there being "more fish in the sea" our marriage mates came from the small and crapy witness pond.
anyone got burned by going with mr or mrs you will have to do?
I didn't marry one, my sister didn't either as she thought they were all "wimps". My friend married an elder who was violent to her so she commited adultery to get divorced and the JWs felt sorry for him!!!! >:-( x
i asked an old jw friend of mine why so many baptized individuals leave the jw religion.
"did it ever occur to you, old friend, that maybe they know something that you don't know and have valid reasons for leaving?
", i asked.. his response set me back for an answer.
After being interrogated by two elders who refused to believe I was not having a sexual relationship with anyone I never returned and because I would not attend a judicial hearing after the aggressive way they were with me. I have been disfellowshipped by them as they do not believe I am not doing in reality the things they "wet dream" about. Pass the nutcrackers I know just what to do with them!! ;-) x
i asked an old jw friend of mine why so many baptized individuals leave the jw religion.
"did it ever occur to you, old friend, that maybe they know something that you don't know and have valid reasons for leaving?
", i asked.. his response set me back for an answer.
Why is it always about sex with those people...there is so much more to life!! >:-( x